Flavoured Bread?

[MrMatthew]

I had an idea this morning, my beloved wife has a breadmaker, she doesn't use it that often.

I've noticed that Lodge Pool does very well with bread as a floating bait, as long as you use some form of grounbait to attract the carp into your swim.

Anyway I was looking at the breadmaker, thinking of the honey and oat loaf she made in it last time. Then I thought you could easily make bread with anything in it, flavours, colours, particles.... Some things like I'm guessing betaine, wouldn't cope with the heat of the baking process but apart from that it could be a real goer...

So any opinions, is this a totally daft idea or might it add something? Anyone tried it before?

I want some confirmation before I try and run this one by the wife... Might have CSL flavoured bread for weeks...

[BUDGIE]

Flavouring bread when you make it works well.Note I said flavouring.Attractors like betaine etc dont (as you have guessed) handle the heat of cooking to well.You can also colour the bread as well.

[Carpy]

Floating bread on the pool can be a match winner.
Many matches early morning or later night, the fish are under your feet.
Have not experimented much with flavored bread, because i have had great success with crust.
Normal on the pool i will always put a few floating pellets out. some down the side and some by the weeds, I will then fish the method, and keep putting in pellets. If the fish start taking the pellets.

I have a Carp pole setup with number 14 or 16 elastic with 6lb main link and 4lb hook length with a 12 hook. This works if they are feeding in the side, i can stick the bread on their noses with no water disturbance.

If they are feeding from the pellets by the weed.
I use rod three 12foot Nash 2 1/5lb test curve, 12lb main line using a candle to get the bread out, with 8lb hook length, this rod i normally use a 10 hook.
The candle works great to give you the casting distance and you have elastic down the middle, so bumping a fish off, is not a problem. The elastic dose the work for you.
If you use the floating pellets on the hook, use hook to match the size of the pellet, the weight of the hook will sink a small pellet.
Good tip to stop them sinking is a bubble off a polystyrene block pushed our the hook to the back of the shank.

[BUDGIE]

Other than seeing it used in the "Fishomania" final on Sky I know very little about the rig you describe.Any chance of a diagram of how you set it up etc?

[MrMatthew]

erm...

" 18. Surface fishing is allowed on Lodge Pool but with bread as the only hook bait and

loose fed bait."

Otherwise I've got some lovely floating trout pellet flavoured floating baits I am despereate to try out.....

[Carpy]

Sorry MrMatthew. I haven't updated last years rules. moon
All surface fishing baits allowed, except for boilies, totally banned. And if you use floating casters, you can't loose feed them.
So you can use them lovely floating trout pellets.

And Budgie i have got Eddie to take a few pictures of the candle. When i get them i will post the methods of
how to use it. Its like catching a big carp on a pole, but you are on a rod and reel.

[MrMatthew]

Thanks for that, I know what I will be doing if I get the chance!

[Carpy]

The Candle Method


Very easy to setup, The elastic is down the middle of the candle. It works like the Method feeder, but with the Candle you use it for floating baits.
You can get the candles in differant sizes, all depends on how far you need to cast.

[BUDGIE]

Cheers mate. Do you buy the "candle" or make your own? Also how much and how strong elastic do you use in relation to main lines and hook lengths?

[Carpy]

Sorry Budgie, forgot to add these details.
Right i buy mine from tackle shops. The candles are made of plastic. and come in various sizes, and different elastic sizes, like you get on a pole. Most of them have the elastic size and line size recommendation on the packet. Price from £2 to a £5 each.
I have never lost one, i always use a stronger elastic, and the hook length is first to go.
If you fish heavy on the hook length it will snap the elastic.
Hook length can change on the peg you chose.
Fishing in open water, i have a 3 foot hook length.
If i fish tight to a weed bed, i come down to about 6 to 9ins.
Because you only know the fish has taken the floating bait, when the candle moves.
If you used a 3 foot hook length on a weed bed, and a fish takes the bait, by the time the candle moves the fish is hard into the weed bed.
Also it is very easy to change the elastic size on the candle. Hope this helps.

[BUDGIE]

Great stuff! will have to give it a go on the teach/fish in.Going to try method feeder as well,another method Ive not used much.

[Carpy]

Budgie the Method feeder is the same. thing really. The candle fish's the top,and the method the bottom.
The method you try to use the same flavoured bait or colour on the feeder. fill the method feeder with groundbait and push your hook bait into it, put more groundbait over that.
When the fish are have a go at your groundbait, they take your bait without knowing.

[Andrew Burgess]

Carpy, I have been watching this thread very carefully and finding very interesting is there any chance you show this method (The candle method) to me on the next junior match?