Hook Designs Problem

[boilie]

I have Carp fished for many years, and never really looked into hook design.
i go to the tackle store get a pack of Animal barbless no 10s and away.
I use them for all methods, floating bread, feeded fishind, even float fishing.
But i know hooks come in all shapes and formats.
How do you choose the right design of hook for the method.

[BUDGIE]

Ive done very little fishing using the method.I suppose you would choose a hook using the same criteria as for other types of fishing.

First thing I look at is the size of bait Im going to be using.This dictates the size of hook.I then take in to acount both the size of the fish Im expecting and the type of bait to select the guage or thickness of the wire the hooks made from.This often has to be a compromise.A good example of this is if you were using maggot for carp,the maggot dictating a fine guage to avoid bursting but the carp dictating a heavy guage to prevent straightening!

Barbed or Barbless? unless rules dictate other wise I use barbless in sizes up to 16 and micro barb in sizes above this.I personally think that although barbless are great for unhooking they cause damage in larger sizes.

As for the actual shape of the hook,well to be quite honest unless choosing a hook for a specific "hair rig" presentation for carp Im not that fussed!

I would have thought the Kamasan Animals you are using all ready would be a good choice?

[dace]

I think the hooks you choose are, you try them,you like them, why change.
I am the same find a good hook you are happy with and you will gain confidence.

[dace]

Barbed or Barbless? unless rules dictate other wise I use barbless in sizes up to 16 and micro barb in sizes above this.I personally think that although barbless are great for unhooking they cause damage in larger sizes

Said by Budgie
Why is a hook big or small make any difference, from causing problems to fish, because of its size.
And why does a barbless hook cause damage.
I always use barbless hooks, until i know its not right.

[MrMatthew]

I too use animals for the strength but I do sometimes think they are a little sparkly and maybe in winter when its tough going that might be a factor (6hours on the Avon today and no bites!)

I do have other hooks because sometimes the shop hasn't got what you need... Preston PR27 have been very good too, but then so have really cheap hooks I have bought off ebay as well....

As you can tell I am no expert! :-)

[Carpy]

I too use Kamasan Animal hooks for my carp fishing.
I find they very reliable and Strong, they are bright hooks, but the hook is never visible with the baits i use or when on the method feeder.
The Preston PR27 is another favorite, which i use on the river again fishing for bigger fish, it as never let me down.

[BUDGIE]

I have found two problems with barbless hooks in the larger sizes.Firstly they penetrate deeper than barbed hooks.With some species ie Perch this can prove fatal.The second problem (and this is often debated) is that in my experience barbless hooks in larger sizes cause more damage during prolonged fights.This is in the form of a larger hole in the flesh.I believe this is because a barbless hook moves around more.

With smaller hooks I dont think (due to them generally being used for smaller fish therefore shorter fights) the same problems exist and if they do they are so much lesser that they are out weighed by the ease of removal.

[longshank]

admin said:

I too use Kamasan Animal hooks for my carp fishing.
I find they very reliable and Strong, they are bright hooks, but the hook is never visible with the baits i use or when on the method feeder.
The Preston PR27 is another favorite, which i use on the river again fishing for bigger fish, it as never let me down.

Hi ya Carpy, you say you use bright hooks but cover them, is there a reason for this? If your hook isnt visable, arnt you putting yourself at a disadvantage with the hooks you have selected?

Keep Fishin

Andy

[BUDGIE]

All this buisness of camoflaging hooks either by colouring them or covering them with these new hook skin things leaves me a bit confused!

[longshank]

admin said:

I too use Kamasan Animal hooks for my carp fishing.
I find they very reliable and Strong, they are bright hooks, but the hook is never visible with the baits i use or when on the method feeder.
The Preston PR27 is another favorite, which i use on the river again fishing for bigger fish, it as never let me down.

The hooks carpy is on about are specificly made for roach, with their glimming effect they look good attached to a broze magott which incidently are a prolific bait used to catch roach. If your hiding the hook within the magott then surley you are putting yourself at a disadvantage.

For the first time in 10 years I have decided to fish for bits, when I say bits, I mean roach, perch and skimmer bream and have decided to use the hooks you are talking about carpy.However I would never cover my hook unless fishing with caster. Covering your hook can reduce the chances of catching a fish especially if fishing with bread.

I really would like to know the reson for you covering your hook mate.

Thankx in advance

Keep Fishin

Andy

[deadred]

As always Budgie advice is right on the money. Selecting your tackle be it rod or reel down to what hook you put on is about balance.

For example Fishing at Lodge pool during the cold months everything gets scaled down to get more bites. You have to compromise your setup to insure that you will catch everything that swims.