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Post by Andrew Burgess on Oct 22, 2005 20:11:20 GMT
First of all you need a length of rig tubing as my preference as I am using a Korda Sinking Rig 0.75mm Tubing in the brown colour as my water contain very little silt. You may uses green if your water have a bit of weed. The I thread a length of a diamond pole threader up the tube until it reaches the other side of the tubing then thread the mainline as I am using braid for my carp fishing. Thread the mainline through the diamond eye threader which it is design to thread pole elastic but in my case braid line or mono line. Pull the wire threader until you see the mainline. Then add a Korda Tail Rubber on the mainline. Wet the end of the rig tubing as this make it easy to thread the rig tubing into the tail rubber. Then thread the inline Anchor Bait Delivery System as I am using 1.5oz Inline. And join it to the tail rubber. Then add a swivel as this is important to you the right size because if the a break in the mainline the fish still able to pull free from the weight. Pushing in the swivel Now add an lenght of your hooklenght and hook. Now here come the tricky part. Get hold of one of the ESP perforated bag. Place your hookbait in the bag. Fill your pellets of your choice. Then place the wight just inside the bag and bring down the rubber ring. There you are ready to cast out and catch a fish.
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Post by Stu on Oct 22, 2005 20:45:39 GMT
Andrew, That's very intriguing for a match angler like myself. While I did a bit of carping in my teens, things have moved on since then, and with the match-carp phenomenon there is a distinct overlap between the two disciplines and therefore much can be learnt from one another.
Incidentally, how long does it take for the bag to dissolve?
Stu
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Post by Andrew Burgess on Oct 22, 2005 20:50:55 GMT
Stu it's depends on what types and manufacture makes you do get but mostly dissolve in a few minutes
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Post by Stu on Oct 22, 2005 21:02:39 GMT
Thanks Andrew,
There are a couple of waters I fish where you need to get the bait tight to islands but where the carp back off a method feeder, so it's usually pellet over loose-fed pellet. I can see this PVA bag method working a treat to get a carpetof feed down at the start of the match.
Stu
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Post by Andrew Burgess on Oct 22, 2005 21:22:55 GMT
Stu, I am not trying to promote any products here but the best ones I have used is E.S.P. perforated (help to sink quicker)
There are two types plain and perforated, 4 different desgin as there are bulk, mini, multi, and sock.
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Post by boilie on Dec 1, 2005 2:08:12 GMT
Very interesting Andrew. Even had the time to setup a rig. Looking forward to trying it out next year.
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Post by BUDGIE on Dec 2, 2005 5:44:48 GMT
Just to add to what Andrew has said.
Water temperature will also affect the rate at what PVA will melt.The colder the longer it will take.Some firms offer different melt rate bags and even flavoured ones to compliment your hook bait!
Also it improves casting if you make sure your bag of bait is "tight" by sucking out as much air as you can.I also like to tuck the botton corners of the bag in to make it a bit more streamlined.
PVA bags are indeed a great way to present a tight group of free offerings around your hook bait.Also handy if you are fishing in heavy weed as the bag will sheild your rig whilst it sinks through it.
Remember though that a loaded bag can weigh quite heavy and you will need to use heavier than normal carp rods.
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Post by smalin on Dec 14, 2005 23:15:59 GMT
Hello everyone I found this post very informative, and i have never used this rig. storing these PVA bags ,must be a nightmare. If you get them wet they will dissolve. Do you setup the bags before you go fishing or on the bank. And how do you save them. Might be a silly question, but to me its all new.
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Post by Andrew Burgess on Dec 15, 2005 18:54:09 GMT
Smalin, when buying any sort of P.V.A bags whatever makes it is, they should come in a resealable bag.
What I normally do depending in the closed season in buy an bulk loads of P.V.A. bags because I tend to use quite a few during the day when carping.
Yes you're quite right that it can be a nightmare if any sort of moisture get in. But there are ways of keeping P.V.A bags dry especially when using it in wet weather.
My P.V.A bags are in a resealable bag with also being kept in my camouflage bait bait which contain the pellets, which could be bloodworms, marine halibut, or the new ones what I have read in the magazine, the fermented shrimp!
In warm weather is ideally to use it and leave it out in the open air with the bait lid undone. This is kept on the left side of me when fishing. But after a time that you want to cast another P.V.A bag out, then the bait bucket is move into gap between the legs when sitting down in the fishing chair this will make the whole procedure very easy. Then you must make sure the hook, hooklenght and the bomb is throughly dry as I use a fishing to do with a towel as this will only takes a few seconds. Then you start filling up the P.V.A. bag, and then place the bucket back on the side. Now you're ready to cast out!
But in wet weather that you must keep it dry what so ever. So the bait bucket goes under the seat (as an extra security the no rain or damp will get in the bucket)or on the side of you if you are sheltered from the umbrella. Again repeat the whole procedure as filling the bag up and definitely make sure the lid goes back on bait bucket because the damp will get to the pellets.
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Post by smalin on Dec 15, 2005 22:20:53 GMT
Thanks Andrew answered my question. Will give it a go next year. Simon
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Post by Andrew Burgess on Dec 15, 2005 22:30:06 GMT
Anytime mate
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Post by aland on Apr 2, 2006 14:55:11 GMT
Cheers Andrew, very informative i bought some of those but never used them i know how to use them now. got the 3oz inline & link fittings
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Post by Andrew Burgess on Apr 2, 2006 19:18:21 GMT
Thanks Al, hope this rig will bring you success as I have.
This is the most method I do everytime when specimen carping on my secret water. This have never let me down yet, and will be using it again a lot this year.
At this moment, I am thinking of new ideas with the PVA bags and will be doing something different this year along with this method on my other rods.
If this does workout right then I will let you all know what this method is, so there will be more topic and pictures on the website.
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